[Computer-go] Zero is weaker than Master!?

Hideki Kato hideki_katoh at ybb.ne.jp
Tue Oct 24 19:28:58 PDT 2017

Are you thinking the 1st instance could reach Master level 
if giving more training days?

I don't think so.  The performance would be stopping 
improving at 3 days.  If not, why they built the 2nd 


Xavier Combelle: <05c04de1-59c4-8fcd-2dd1-094faabf38a7 at gmail.com>:
>How is it a fair comparison if there is only 3 days of training for Zero ?

>Master had longer training no ? Moreover, Zero has bootstrap problem

>because at the opposite of Master it don't learn from expert games

>which means that it is likely to be weaker with little training.



>Le 24/10/2017 à 20:20, Hideki Kato a écrit :

>> David Silver told Master used 40 layers network in May. 

>> According to new paper, Master used the same architecture 

>> as Zero.  So, Master used 20 blocks ResNet.  


>> The first instance of Zero, 20 blocks ResNet version, is 

>> weaker than Master (after 3 days training).  So, with the 

>> same layers (a fair comparison) Zero is weaker than 

>> Master.


>> Hideki




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