[Computer-go] Japanese Shogi scene and AlphaZero

Hiroshi Yamashita yss at bd.mbn.or.jp
Sat Dec 16 00:35:05 PST 2017

Hi Ingo,

In Shogi, AlphaZero is +400 Elo stronger than elmo.
But current strongest Shogi program is +184 stronger than elmo.
AlphaZero is still strongest thought.

Shogi open source program rating

One slight things, "elmo" author Takizawa likes to be called "elmo", not "Elmo".
Because Elmo is famous Sesame Street character.

Like CGOS, many Shogi programs play on net.
http://wdoor.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp/shogi/floodgate.html (Japanese)

I also want to see AlphaZero Shogi game records.

Hiroshi Yamashita

----- Original Message ----- 
From: ""Ingo Althöfer"" <3-Hirn-Verlag at gmx.de>
To: <computer-go at computer-go.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:29 PM
Subject: [Computer-go] Japanese Shogi scene and AlphaZero

> Hello in the round,
> I asked a Japanese friend how the DeepMind report
> (on Chess and Shogi) was recepted in the Shogi scene.
> Here are the central parts of his answer (given on Wednesday):
>> Today, I just found a news on Alpha Zero in a Japanese
>> common newspaper, Asahi Shinbun, reporting the superiority
>> to previous AI playing program, probably through Google.
>> ...
>> In the paper, “Mastering Chess and Shogi by Self-Play with
>> a General Reinforcement Learning Algorith,” by DeepMind,
>> it seems there is no example of Shogi play.
>> Japan Shogi League seems not yet to respond to recent
>> Alpha Zero news.
> For the Shogi scene it would definitely be interesting
> to get Shogi games of AlphaZero for replay.
> Ingo.
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