[Computer-go] KGS bot tournaments: structure

Hideki Kato hideki_katoh at ybb.ne.jp
Tue May 10 02:23:04 PDT 2016

CGOS is better place for those lower programs, isn't it?  I'm not 
against creating lower division, just wonder if it's really  
necessary.  Recently it's easier to implement "large patterns" 
which is necessary to beat GNU Go on 19x19 using DCNN than Remi's 
B-T model and so most programs could quickly reach GNU Go 
level.  If this is correct, creating two divisions might be a 
bad idea.


Nick Wedd: <CAEVtG+M-2CzXmP=RLwG0WSm9pGQ738AT_cd_SO9phVrEz5cGOw at mail.gmail.com>: 
>At present, KGS bot tournaments are run as Swiss tournaments.  Entry is
>restricted to bots able to beat GNU Go, which is rated at 7k.
>Two suggestions have been made recently for changes in the structure.  One
>is to allow bots of any strength to enter, and to have two divisions, with
>those unable to beat GNU Go in the lower division.  The other is to use
>McMahon instead of Swiss.
>A problem with McMahon is that the scheduling software (a module of the KGS
>server, which I have no control over) uses the ratings assigned by KGS, and
>many bots do not have such ratings. I don't think it's reasonable to
>require all entrants to have rated bot status.  Rated bot status is granted
>only to *stable* bots, ones which do not change rapidly in strength and
>thereby upset the ratings of their opponents.  I think it's fine for
>someone to enter an experimental bot of unknown strength in a tournament,
>but such a bot cannot have a KGS rating.
>Maybe we could combine the two suggestions.  Have two divisions: upper
>division McMahon, with entrants required to have KGS ratings of 7k or
>better; lower division open.  I would like to hear people's views on this -
>and any more suggestions they have.
Hideki Kato <mailto:hideki_katoh at ybb.ne.jp>

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