[Computer-go] May KGS bot tournament

Urban Hafner contact at urbanhafner.com
Wed May 4 23:52:54 PDT 2016


Ah yes, that's what I remember as well. I'd be happy with two divisions as well, but I wonder if there's a need for it. 

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> Am 05.05.2016 um 00:20 schrieb David Doshay <ddoshay at mac.com>:
> 
> A long time ago there existed the ‘formal’ and the ‘open’ divisions. Because SlugGo used so much GNUGo code in a way such that SlugGo could offer several stones and still beat GNUGo, it was decided that whenever both bots were available for the tournament one would be in one division and the other would be in the other division. This was also the way that newer bots could start playing in tournaments without getting every detail of the game-end protocol correct.
> 
> Or at least that is what I remember.
> 
> Cheers,
> David G Doshay
> 
> ddoshay at mac.com
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> 
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> 
>> On 4, May 2016, at 10:09 AM, Nick Wedd <maproom at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I would happily run more than one division (which the KGS scheduler will regard as separate events). Is there enough interest to justify a second division?
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>>> On 4 May 2016 at 15:46, Urban Hafner <contact at urbanhafner.com> wrote:
>>> There used to be many more entrants in the past IIRC. And we never split into several tournaments or leagues. But I also feel we should wait for Nick to chime in. I think we had this exact same discussion a while ago but I can’t remember the outcome. ;)
>>> 
>>> Urban
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira <gonmf at sapo.pt> wrote:
>>>> Has the number of programs risen that much?
>>>> 
>>>> I'd prefer not adding self-declared ranking limitations, though as a
>>>> spectator handicap matches are interesting.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyways, Urban, I can enter my program too if you want, it is well
>>>> bellow GNU Go in 19x19.
>>>> 
>>>> Gonçalo
>>>> 
>>>> On 04/05/2016 15:27, Erik van der Werf wrote:
>>>> > Or switch to McMahon / Handicaps
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Sebastian Scheib <stackpointerex at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> That would be good, something like in other sports where you have a first,
>>>> >> second and so... categories.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2016-05-04 11:00 GMT-03:00 Jim O'Flaherty <jim.oflaherty.jr at gmail.com>:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Hmmm...if bots weaker than GnuGo are actively discouraged, perhaps there
>>>> >>> could be a separate tournament level for that grouping of "aspiring
>>>> >>> computer Go" entrants (if it isn't too much extra work). Having bots earn
>>>> >>> the right to move into the higher level of (i.e. have met the entry
>>>> >>> requirement of "consistently beats GnuGo version X.Y) might be a nice
>>>> >>> filter as the number of those desiring to participate (with weaker bots)
>>>> >>> rises.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Urban Hafner <contact at urbanhafner.com>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> I’m considering entering with my bot but it’s rather weak (a lot weaker
>>>> >>>> than GnuGo on 19x19) so I don’t know if it makes sense. Unless of course
>>>> >>>> other weaker bots were willing to enter as well. If no one is interested in
>>>> >>>> this (or if it’s even discouraged by Nick) then I would refrain from
>>>> >>>> entering tournaments that I have no chance in beating GnuGo.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Urban
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Nick Wedd <maproom at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> The May KGS bot tournament will start on Sunday, May 8th at 16:00 UTC,
>>>> >>>>> and finish by 22:00 UTC.  It will use 19x19 boards, with time limits
>>>> >>>>> of 14 minutes each plus very fast Canadian overtime, and komi of 7.5.
>>>> >>>>> See http://www.gokgs.com/tournEntrants.jsp?id=1030
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Please register by emailing me, with the words "KGS Tournament Registration"
>>>> >>>>> in the email title, at maproom at gmail.com .
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Nick
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