[Computer-go] Is Go group pattern recognition by CNN possible?

Jim O'Flaherty jim.oflaherty.jr at gmail.com
Thu Apr 21 07:43:32 PDT 2016


Petr,

Tysvm! I really appreciate that.


Jim


On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 4:41 AM, Josef Moudrik <j.moudrik at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you!
>
> Dne čt 21. 4. 2016 11:17 uživatel Petr Baudis <pasky at ucw.cz> napsal:
>
>>   Hi!
>>
>>   Since "the record's stuck", I have found this as another rant without
>> point, and djhbrown hasn't responded to my private request for staying
>> on topic and friendly, I have taken the liberty to "cast the first
>> stone" and
>>
>>         enabled the moderation bit for djhbrown.
>>
>>   I'll be happy to pass through any mail that could have an interesting
>> insight, otherwise I invite those enjoying these reads to watch his
>> blog and youtube channel.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:52:01AM +1000, djhbrown . wrote:
>> > Surely, someone, somewhere, has used, or tried to use, a CNN to label
>> > groups in a Go game 361-pixellation?
>> >
>> > Q: what's the point of Go?
>> > A: 361
>> >
>> > (you would have thought someone else would have already thought of that
>> one)
>> >
>> > Minsky and Papert threw a spanner into the works of the NN Magi of the
>> > day, but whose grandchildren are now basking in the reflected glow of
>> > their triumphal triumphant  Man Who Would be King Apollo
>> > Al(pha)exander who has conquered further far East than Kaffiristan -
>> > Peace Be Upon Her prophet Kipling.
>> >
>> > The spanner was that the MPs found out that Perceptrons were Baron
>> > Munchausen Walter Mittys who couldn't see the hole in a doughnut,
>> > which meant that although they could learn to out-Pong space invaders,
>> > they would become lost in a Pacman maze.  As they did, as Dm hirelings
>> > let slip out of the bag.
>> >
>> > Later, or before, depending on how you look at it, Backpropagators
>> > claimed to have overcome this clog in their Jaquard's Loom in a Simple
>> > Twist of Fate by claiming that Minsky was ancient history just as he
>> > had claimed that they would so become [1], and now the new religion of
>> > Stratified Convolutionism is claiming columnar accession to the throne
>> > of AI, after Marchly breaking the back of the monster Orwellian
>> > Goldstein gold standard Enemy of the Statespace, so it's just a few
>> > weeks left to the Singularity, say the homeopathic snake-oil homology
>> > self-promotional entrepreneurial salesmen.
>> >
>> > Sir Humphrey: "Everything is connected... who said that?"
>> > Bernard: "The Cabinet Secretary?"
>> > Sir H: "Nearly right; actually, it was Lenin"
>> >
>> > Norman Mailer once ranted that critics should be shot, but The Prince
>> > Vespasian Flavius was cunninger, seeing the wisdom of his
>> > Machiavelli-of-the-day Josephus that rather than claim to be the Sun
>> > incarnate (as had his predecessors and as would his son's successors)
>> > and attempt ViViVi by enfilade brute force, he could rule over the
>> > southern desert troublemakers more easily and cheaply by spin
>> > propaganda alone, simply by pretending he and his son Titus were the
>> > earthly allegory of the heavenly born-again Messiah they yearned for
>> > and put into that character's mouth the platitude that they should
>> > render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and love their enemies rather
>> > than stone them.
>> >
>> > And it worked, for two thousand years, and is still going strong
>> > despite a few seminal whacky  leaks, just as Monty Python's Black
>> > Adder Baldrick C(u)NN(ing) Plan has created a Reich that will last a
>> > thousand years and upon which the sun will never set, so let us parrot
>> > Hymn Number google in the Good Bok of Not the Nine O-Clock News [2]
>> > and that other one:
>> >
>> >  "it (symbolic reasoning) is an ex-parrot; it has ceased to be.  Monty
>> > is Great!  I avow that there is no Go but Monty.".
>> >
>> > Apologies to those unfamiliar with the various historical allusions
>> > that are variously common and uncommon knowledge among readers of A
>> > History of the English-Speaking Peoples, to whom it will be somewhat
>> > illusory without Googling the Gogglebox. which may cause the more
>> > insecure among them to jump on the bandwagon of striking the first
>> > blow and casting the first stone for the umpteenth time, anxious for
>> > attention and the comfort blanket of communal hatred of any straw man
>> > that stumbles across their blinkered monochrome landscape, so to
>> > relieve the burden of thought, Sherpa the Sean suggests somewheres to
>> > start:
>> >
>> > 1. http://www.webofstories.com/play/marvin.minsky/25
>> >
>> > 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqilW8OpeGc
>> >
>> > Only a Dostoyevskian Idiot-ic lone wolf apostate would dare leave the
>> > quiet safety of the silent steppes to risk the monotonic ugly-mouthed
>> > egg-throwing of self-righteous smug lion camp followers snug in their
>> > schooled mutual hatred of anything or anyone with more melanin or a
>> > different perspective than their straightjacket mindset.
>> >
>> > The record's stuck, the record's stuck.
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>> --
>>                                 Petr Baudis
>>         If you have good ideas, good data and fast computers,
>>         you can do almost anything. -- Geoffrey Hinton
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