[Computer-go] Is Go group pattern recognition by CNN possible?

Josef Moudrik j.moudrik at gmail.com
Thu Apr 21 02:41:49 PDT 2016


Thank you!

Dne čt 21. 4. 2016 11:17 uživatel Petr Baudis <pasky at ucw.cz> napsal:

>   Hi!
>
>   Since "the record's stuck", I have found this as another rant without
> point, and djhbrown hasn't responded to my private request for staying
> on topic and friendly, I have taken the liberty to "cast the first
> stone" and
>
>         enabled the moderation bit for djhbrown.
>
>   I'll be happy to pass through any mail that could have an interesting
> insight, otherwise I invite those enjoying these reads to watch his
> blog and youtube channel.
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:52:01AM +1000, djhbrown . wrote:
> > Surely, someone, somewhere, has used, or tried to use, a CNN to label
> > groups in a Go game 361-pixellation?
> >
> > Q: what's the point of Go?
> > A: 361
> >
> > (you would have thought someone else would have already thought of that
> one)
> >
> > Minsky and Papert threw a spanner into the works of the NN Magi of the
> > day, but whose grandchildren are now basking in the reflected glow of
> > their triumphal triumphant  Man Who Would be King Apollo
> > Al(pha)exander who has conquered further far East than Kaffiristan -
> > Peace Be Upon Her prophet Kipling.
> >
> > The spanner was that the MPs found out that Perceptrons were Baron
> > Munchausen Walter Mittys who couldn't see the hole in a doughnut,
> > which meant that although they could learn to out-Pong space invaders,
> > they would become lost in a Pacman maze.  As they did, as Dm hirelings
> > let slip out of the bag.
> >
> > Later, or before, depending on how you look at it, Backpropagators
> > claimed to have overcome this clog in their Jaquard's Loom in a Simple
> > Twist of Fate by claiming that Minsky was ancient history just as he
> > had claimed that they would so become [1], and now the new religion of
> > Stratified Convolutionism is claiming columnar accession to the throne
> > of AI, after Marchly breaking the back of the monster Orwellian
> > Goldstein gold standard Enemy of the Statespace, so it's just a few
> > weeks left to the Singularity, say the homeopathic snake-oil homology
> > self-promotional entrepreneurial salesmen.
> >
> > Sir Humphrey: "Everything is connected... who said that?"
> > Bernard: "The Cabinet Secretary?"
> > Sir H: "Nearly right; actually, it was Lenin"
> >
> > Norman Mailer once ranted that critics should be shot, but The Prince
> > Vespasian Flavius was cunninger, seeing the wisdom of his
> > Machiavelli-of-the-day Josephus that rather than claim to be the Sun
> > incarnate (as had his predecessors and as would his son's successors)
> > and attempt ViViVi by enfilade brute force, he could rule over the
> > southern desert troublemakers more easily and cheaply by spin
> > propaganda alone, simply by pretending he and his son Titus were the
> > earthly allegory of the heavenly born-again Messiah they yearned for
> > and put into that character's mouth the platitude that they should
> > render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and love their enemies rather
> > than stone them.
> >
> > And it worked, for two thousand years, and is still going strong
> > despite a few seminal whacky  leaks, just as Monty Python's Black
> > Adder Baldrick C(u)NN(ing) Plan has created a Reich that will last a
> > thousand years and upon which the sun will never set, so let us parrot
> > Hymn Number google in the Good Bok of Not the Nine O-Clock News [2]
> > and that other one:
> >
> >  "it (symbolic reasoning) is an ex-parrot; it has ceased to be.  Monty
> > is Great!  I avow that there is no Go but Monty.".
> >
> > Apologies to those unfamiliar with the various historical allusions
> > that are variously common and uncommon knowledge among readers of A
> > History of the English-Speaking Peoples, to whom it will be somewhat
> > illusory without Googling the Gogglebox. which may cause the more
> > insecure among them to jump on the bandwagon of striking the first
> > blow and casting the first stone for the umpteenth time, anxious for
> > attention and the comfort blanket of communal hatred of any straw man
> > that stumbles across their blinkered monochrome landscape, so to
> > relieve the burden of thought, Sherpa the Sean suggests somewheres to
> > start:
> >
> > 1. http://www.webofstories.com/play/marvin.minsky/25
> >
> > 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqilW8OpeGc
> >
> > Only a Dostoyevskian Idiot-ic lone wolf apostate would dare leave the
> > quiet safety of the silent steppes to risk the monotonic ugly-mouthed
> > egg-throwing of self-righteous smug lion camp followers snug in their
> > schooled mutual hatred of anything or anyone with more melanin or a
> > different perspective than their straightjacket mindset.
> >
> > The record's stuck, the record's stuck.
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>                                 Petr Baudis
>         If you have good ideas, good data and fast computers,
>         you can do almost anything. -- Geoffrey Hinton
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