[Computer-go] ManyFaces swindled of victory?

David Fotland fotland at smart-games.com
Sat Nov 13 09:00:52 PST 2010

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[mailto:computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of Petri Pitkanen
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 3:53 AM
To: computer-go at dvandva.org
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] ManyFaces swindled of victory?


All my wins against ManyFaces tend to be swindles. It clearly better at
certain things than I am, but when big groups get cut off and eyeless I can
win fights where I should lose. I could easily find you a game where I won
by winning a huge semeai where MFOG could have just by playing it out  or by
making eye/eyes earlier. So you don't need even many confusing fights. One
big one will do. Well and in my cases a bit of luck as well. 


2010/11/13 terry mcintyre <terrymcintyre at yahoo.com>

This is a curious game - a 3 stone game betwixt ManyFaces and a 2 kyu


It looks to my eye as if MFGO was well ahead in the middle game, yet managed
to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. 


Black has many unsettled groups; usually a stronger player causes much grief
in situations like this, but black managed to turn around and swallow up not
one but several white groups. 


Most interesting. I think this confirms an earlier thread - when there are
several semeai on the board, MCT-based strategies get into difficulties. 


I think strong human players tend to have a better grasp of "this particular
fight is settled, no need to study it further until a liberty is removed (in
which case respond now!); let's focus on this other fight instead . . ."




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