[Computer-go] Many Faces vs. Tromp

Mark Boon tesujisoftware at gmail.com
Tue Nov 2 14:53:02 PDT 2010


$5000 would also buy a lot of cycles on Amazon.

Mark


On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:52 AM, steve uurtamo <uurtamo at gmail.com> wrote:
> i should add: because i'm sure that people would be willing to donate
> large cycles if it would help.
>
> :)
>
> s.
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:32 PM, steve uurtamo <uurtamo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ah, thanks. that answers what my actual question was, which is if the
>> rule was intended to limit the hardware, or to limit the expense.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> s.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Nick Wedd <nick at maproom.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <AANLkTin99NePAWZctUrus7HW7Dd3uLr6+Gn=9ZjOBqWF at mail.gmail.com>,
>>> steve uurtamo <uurtamo at gmail.com> writes
>>>>
>>>> i am going to assume that donated hardware violates the spirit of "the
>>>> best hardware under $5000", correct?
>>>
>>> My opinion, as referee, is that the hardware must be identical to hardware
>>> for sale, in the normal course of trade, at that price.  How Darren actually
>>> gets his hands on it is irrelevant.  He can buy it, rent it, or borrow it.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>> s.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:17 PM, David Fotland <fotland at smart-games.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can confirm that John was playing a version running on a 4-core 2.2
>>>>> GHz,
>>>>> Core2 Quad.  The engine had a few minor changes since Kanazawa, but no
>>>>> significant changes in strength.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your best chance would be to get the biggest SMP machine you can.  Many
>>>>> Faces' cluster code is broken, and there is no guarantee I can fix it
>>>>> before
>>>>> the end of the year.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: computer-go-bounces at dvandva.org [mailto:computer-go-
>>>>>> bounces at dvandva.org] On Behalf Of Darren Cook
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 2:49 AM
>>>>>> To: computer-go at dvandva.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Computer-go] Many Faces vs. Tromp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seemingly in preparation for the shodan go bet event (being held at the
>>>>>> end of December in central London):
>>>>>>   http://www.gokgs.com/gameArchives.jsp?user=tromp&year=2010&month=10
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3-1 to Tromp :-(
>>>>>> But better than 4-0 :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think ManyFaces2 is a recent version of the software, running on
>>>>>> 4-cores. (ManyFaces1 runs on 12-cores, which is the one with the 2d
>>>>>> ranking [1].)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Incidentally, according to this page, and assuming John is a European
>>>>>> 2-dan, then the program needs to be KGS 4-dan to have a 50% chance:
>>>>>>   http://senseis.xmp.net/?RankWorldwideComparison
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darren
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]: http://www.gokgs.com/graphPage.jsp?user=ManyFaces1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Darren Cook, Software Researcher/Developer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://dcook.org/gobet/  (Shodan Go Bet - who will win?)
>>>>>> http://dcook.org/work/ (About me and my work)
>>>>>> http://dcook.org/blogs.html (My blogs and articles)
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