[Computer-go] excessive bounce cutoff, attempt to change address, attempt to get password confirmation, ...
malf at aracnet.com
Mon Apr 19 13:06:37 PDT 2010
On 4/19/10 8:33 AM, Richard Brown wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Stuart A. Yeates <syeates at gmail.com
> <mailto:syeates at gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:38 AM, steve uurtamo <uurtamo at gmail.com
> <mailto:uurtamo at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > i have to pull about 1/5 of this list's emails
> > out of gmail's spam filter [...].
> A solution to this is to create a filter for the list ('filter
> messages like this' on the drop down by the reply buttom) and tell
> gmail never to put emails that match the filter in the spam folder.
> [Yes, I'm aware that this is merely treating the symptoms]
> I'd like to second Stuart's approach, at least for gmail use; gmail
> users will find the following of interest.
> I have not had to drag any computer-go messages out of my spam box ever
> since I:
> * Created a /label, /"[computer-go]", by going to Settings -->
> Labels --> Create new label.
> * Created a /filter, /by going to Settings --> Filters --> Create a
> new filter.
> I disagree that doing so is merely treating the symptoms of a problem.
> What it is,
> is sorting incoming mail, and putting it into folders, /before /the spam
> box ever sees it,
> which the spam box never does. The "label" really acts like a folder.
> This obviates the need for a spam-filter ever to be applied to these
> messages at all, and so it isn't applied.
> Now, I know that gmail will try to tell you "Search, don't sort!" They
> look upon folders
> as somehow old-fashioned. <Ptui!> Gol'-danged whippersnappers. I likes
> to put me
> mail inna folder, by Jiminy. So, I /sort, /which obviates the need for
> I had a similar problem with the AGA go e-journal, took the same
> approach, and now
> those never end up in my spam box either. They end up instead, neatly
> sorted into
> my AGA folder.
> Same goes for other stuff I knew I wanted. Here is my list of labels
> and filters:
> *The following filters are applied to all incoming mail:
> Matches: from:(journal at usgo.org <mailto:journal at usgo.org>)
> Do this: Skip Inbox, Apply label "AGA"
> Matches: subject:([computer-go])
> Do this: Skip Inbox, Apply label "[computer-go]"
> Matches: from:(Kidpoker at cardsharkmedia.com
> <mailto:Kidpoker at cardsharkmedia.com>)
> Do this: Skip Inbox, Apply label "Negreanu"
> Matches: from:(slashdot at slashdot.org <mailto:slashdot at slashdot.org>)
> Do this: Skip Inbox, Apply label "slashdot"
> Matches: label:buzz
> Do this: Skip Inbox
> Since there's already a "buzz" folder (inconveniently placed immediately
> below my inbox, yuck)
> none of that detritus shows up in my inbox either.
> And, by the miracle of old-fashioned technology (Yankee ingenuity, we
> used to call it)
> there are fewer "false positives", so almost every message that ends up
> in my spam box,
> really is spam!
> And if it's not spam, I can just create a new filter.
> Now I have protected myself from the disgruntled folks who are marking
> the list messages as spam.
> So, for me, this is a solution, not just a workaround.
Just fyi, my experience with this is that adding computer-go (and
wvgc-go) to my pass through list doesn't work, I also have to add
computer-go-bounces and wvgc-go-bounces to the list. Articles are
quarantined with the -bounces part even though when I forward them they
show up without it. I am not aware of having missed any articles for
either group since adding the two -bounces addresses. I use a Mac and
Thunderbird and have wondered if my experience is peculiar to my system
or my ISP.
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