[computer-go] Please have your bot resign, for your own good
Don Dailey
drdailey at cox.net
Wed Jan 2 08:44:23 PST 2008
One of my bots will pass if the opponent passes first - if it's a win.
Even if the opponent has dead stones still on the board. But of
course it won't pass if the Tromp Taylor score is not enough for the win.
- Don
Jason House wrote:
> If your bot has enough points to win under Tromp Taylor scoring, why
> capture dead stones? Passing is the fastest way to end the game in
> your favor. That trick should limit your game length to something
> manageable. I've been thinking that I should add that feature to my bot.
>
> I've also considered the exact opposite strategy... When losing a
> game, aim to stress the opponent's time management (since it's the
> highest probability of victory). That would include underhanded
> tricks like filling my own eyes. I probably won't implement that, but
> it was an interesting thought.
>
> On Jan 1, 2008 11:57 PM, Peter Christopher <peterchristopher at yahoo.com
> <mailto:peterchristopher at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> I realize there are some legitimate reasons to have your bot play out
> the games on cgos until the bitter end. Here I would like to present
> one reason why you may want to have your bot resign instead. I live
> in the Philippines. My ping from my computers here is usualy about
> .3-.4 seconds. I do often put some bots on cgos from here, tend to be
> rated around 1600-1700. Because of the long ping & the tromp-taylor
> rules, my bots often lose won games on time. Playing from my
> computer
> here, I typically set a buffer around 45 seconds when the bot assumes
> the game is a won game & almost immediately plays filler moves.
> Nevertheless, with this buffer or even a larger buffer, the bot often
> captures massive groups, and at 2 moves per second (all network lag),
> the bot can't fill the whole board again & again, and if my bot passes
> & yours doesn't, that's also slow to fill the board. The end result
> is that in your records, you may be testing your bot's new features
> and want to have an accurate elo rating to know whether it is working.
> If your bot is playing my bot, and your bot doesn't resign lost
> games, you won't have an accurate rating of its new features. Sorry
> for the inconvenience. This is happening today quite a lot vs.
> challenger. Some other days it's a different bot. Just something to
> keep in mind.
> Peter
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