[computer-go] CGOS Deflation or Self-Play delusion?

Rémi Coulom Remi.Coulom at univ-lille3.fr
Sun Feb 3 00:52:44 PST 2008


I believe the main problem is that the Elo-rating model is wrong for 
bots. The phenomenon with Mogo is probably the same as Crazy Stone: if 
there are enough strong MC bots playing to shield the top MC programs 
from playing against GNU, then they'll get a high rating because they 
are efficient at beating other MC bots. Otherwise, they are forced to 
play against GNU, and lose points.

For instance:
http://www.lri.fr/~teytaud/cross/CS-9-17-2CPU.html
GNU 	1946 	22 / 27 	81.48
GnuCvs-10 	1969 	26 / 31 	83.87
AyaMC637_4CPU 	2108 	18 / 19 	94.74


A very easy way to get over-evaluated on CGOS is to have two versions of 
the same program that play each other. For instance, if I connect 
CS-2CPU and CS-8CPU, they will play most of their games against each 
other, ans CS-8CPU will get an incredible rating.

Just incorporate GNU in Don's scalability study, and the rating range 
will shrink a lot.

Rémi


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