[computer-go] Paper for AAAI

Jason House jason.james.house at gmail.com
Mon Apr 7 05:36:25 PDT 2008


On Apr 7, 2008, at 8:22 AM, Petr Baudis <pasky at ucw.cz> wrote:

>  Hello,
>
> On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 08:55:26PM -0600, David Silver wrote:
>> Here is a draft of the paper, any feedback would be very welcome :-)
>>
>> http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~silver/research/publications/files/MoGoNectar.pdf
>
>  you are saying that in minimax, opponent moves are selected by
> minimizing the lower confidence bound - this seems novel, is that  
> so? I
> always got the impression that for the opponent moves, you reverse the
> mean value but still use UCB.

I think both methods are equivalent. The UCB for one player is 1-LCB  
for the other player...





>
>  Is the FPU heuristics not mentioned in the paper only for space
> reasons, or did it prove not to be so useful in practice in the end?
>
>  I see three unclear details about the RAVE algorithm: Are only nodes
> in the tree considered for the inclusion, or also moves in the  
> following
> random playout? And one of the sentences hints that there is a  
> separate
> period of playouts purely seeding the RAVE value before the UCT-RAVE
> linear combination takes over - is that so? And it does not follow  
> from
> the paper that that the UCB formula is used for the RAVE value as  
> well,
> while the ICML paper states that.
>
>  I am surprised on the bad effect of the grandfather heuristic and the
> good effect of the even game heuristic. I assume that the effect of  
> the
> heuristics should accumulate when several of them are combined in the
> prior value?
>
>  The paper looks very nice otherwise.
>
>  By the way, has anyone measured how big influence different weight of
> playouts has on the various heuristics? For example, I'm still
> struggling to get any improvement from RAVE whatsoever myself, but I
> don't know if it is because I'm getting it wrong or whether it might
> manifest only when making the playouts stronger (I randomly use only
> three hardcoded patterns in the playouts).
>
>  Thanks,
>
> -- 
>                Petr "Pasky" Baudis
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