[computer-go] Tesuji

[Don Dailey]

I should get a rating on KGS just to get a rough idea of how weak I am.
I know that when I started I could not tell if a group was dead in even
simple cases.   I thought my own program was blundering many times when
the moves were actually good.  

Even though I haven't played a game (outside of my own program for
testing) I know I've improved enormously just by watching my program
play itself and other programs and from working out ways to improve it.
I would expect that I might be around 20 kyu - much better than raw
beginner but still not very good.   Of course I'm not a top Go
programmer either so I guess this is not very relevant ;-)


- Don


On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 13:32 -0400, Jason House wrote:
> 
> On 9/11/07, Nick Wedd <nick at maproom.co.uk> wrote:
>         In message
>         <1189517924.24394.1337.camel at localhost.localdomain>, Don
>         Dailey <drd at mit.edu> writes
>         
>         >Who has the best Go programs at 19x19 level?   I think David
>         Fotland is
>         >only 2 Dan and his is one of the best.   I know the old
>         handtalk program
>         >was written by a very strong player.   How strong is Michael
>         Reiss? 
>         >And the other top guys?
>         
>         Ken Chen is 6-dan.  Chen, Zhixing, the writer of
>         HandTalk/GoeMate is
>         about 5-dan by European standards.  Martin Müller and Robert
>         Rehm are
>         5-dan.  Daniel Bump and Arnoud Rutgers van der Loeff are
>         4-dan.  David 
>         Forland is 3-dan.  Joachim Pimiskern is 2-dan.  Michael Reiss
>         is 1-kyu.
>         Wang, Yizao is 2-kyu.  Guillaume Chaslot and Ivo Tonkes are
>         3-kyu.
>         
>         I have heard that Bruce Wilcox learned Go so as to be able to
>         write a 
>         program to play it, and became 5-dan himself.
> 
> 
> It may be important to distinguish the ratings that people are now
> with their ratings when they started coding their program.  I've
> improved by 9 stones (by kgs ratings) since I started my bot.  (I wish
> I could say I'm a dan, but at 3k I think I'm still far from it).  I
> find that sitting down to work on my bot often encourages me to play
> go instead... naturally leading to improved playing strength. 
> 
> I partly decided to write a bot so that I would be forced to solidify
> my go knowledge (through the process of teaching the computer what I
> know in a systematic way).  Sadly, I don't think my coding of go has
> taught me anything about go yet. 
> 
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