[computer-go] re: completed game scoring

Gunnar Farnebäck gunnar at lysator.liu.se
Wed Nov 21 14:34:32 PST 2007


Dave Dyer wrote:
> Over the years I've had a dribble of requests for my collection
> of scored games.  The most recent request inspired me to stop
> the water torture by just posting it for general use.

Thanks. Maybe this is a good time for some feedback I've collected over 
the years.

First a comment for people new to this collection. About 100 of the 
games are missing the KM property; it seems usually best to assume 5.5 
komi in those cases. The scoring is always by territory rules (Japanese, 
Korean).

Next some games where I don't agree with the scoring or is unsure about 
the missing komi. If someone has access to other sources for these 
games, can you check if they record the games differently? Feel free to 
falsify my counting if that seems easier. :-)

16TH-KIWANG-LEAGUE-GAME-26.sgf:
Recorded score is B+9.5. I get B+16 on the board which would require 
komi to be 6.5. The game comments say
C[ 16th Kiwang League, Game 26
  White: Ha Chanseok, 8 dan
  Black: Heung Taeseon, 7 dan
  Site: Hanguk Kiwon, Korea
  Date: Oct. 25, 1991
  233 moves
  Black wins by 9 1/2 pts.]

1988-KISEI-GAME-1.sgf:
Recorded score is W+1.5 but I get W+2.5.
C[ 1988 Kisei title, game 1
  white: Kobayashi Koichi
  black: Kato Masao
  Played on Jan 13,14 1988
  Commentary in go world #52, Summer 1988
  White wins by 1.5 points]

OZA26_F.sgf:
There's something strange with this game record since there are two 
points left to play for at F13 at the end of the game (and after smaller 
moves have been made). Is there some move missing or misplaced in the 
game record?
C[ 26th Oza Title, Final Elimination Round.
  White: Rin Kaiho, 9-dan.
  Black: Ishida Yoshio, 9-dan.
  Komi: 5 1/2 points.
  Time: 6 hours each.
  Black wins by 3 1/2 points.
  Played on November 9, 1978
  Source: GO World #12, pp. 7-8.

WOM24_02.sgf:
The RE property and initial comments say B+0.5 but the final comment 
says B+1.5. I get B+1.5. Which is correct?
C[24th Women's Championship
  Game Two
  White: Kobayashi Chizu, 4-dan.
  Black: Ogawa Tomoko, 4-dan.
  Komi: 5 1/2 points
  Time: 6 Hours each.
  Black wins by 1/2 a point.
  Played on April 27, 1978.
  Source: GO World #9, pp. 7-9.

meijin-64-2.sgf and meijin-70-x-sgf.sgf:
These need KM[5] for the recorded results to make sense.

/Gunnar


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