[computer-go] MoGo

[Nick Apperson]

one concern i have is that within a family of programs (such as MC) the
estimated skill differences are overestimated.  I would really like to see
an anchor that uses a different technique.  I'm not offering a solution.
Thoughts?

On 3/17/07, Don Dailey <drd at mit.edu> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 23:32 +0100, Sylvain Gelly wrote:
> > Hi Don,
> >
> > > I remember when CGOS first came up,  I expected it to be a
> > > few years before a program could achieve 2000.0 on the CGOS
> > > scale.
> > I hope you are more optimistic on the future.
>
> I thought I was just being realistic, based on previous progress
> in computer GO which has been basically a crawl.   I did not
> anticipate the amazing success of Monte Carlo techniques.  Even
> though I predicted it, I didn't expect it to go so far so fast.
>
> > >  At some point the Anchor program will be too weak to be taken
> > > seriously and we will have to replace it!
> > Having an anchor at a much higher level would be very useful, in order
> > to have the rating converge more quickly (and accurately). I think the
> > last version of Lazarus would do a great job, for at least two
> > (essential) reasons: very strong (rated at 2100 ELO) and keep the
> > transitivity (very important) i.e. the winning rate of Lazarus against
> > every other programs matches the difference in ELO.
> > I know it does not match the "do not take resources" requirement, and
> > you would have to dedicate a computer for that. But with the number of
> > programs at +- 2000 ELO, the 1500 AnchorMan is far too weak.
> > Fortunately, ggexp is almost always connected and strong.
>
> Another possible candidate is Mogo, running at 3K play-outs, like the
> version running on CGOS right now.
>
> An idea I have is to fix up a binary of some strong program like Lazarus
> or Mogo, with the level and essential parameters hard coded to be an
> Anchor
> player.    Ask 2 or 3 people to run these clones under different names
> as Anchor players.   Then there would usually be an Anchor available
> to play.
>
> Do you think any version of gnugo is suitable as an anchor?
>
>
> - Don
>
>
>
>
> > Sylvain
>
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