[computer-go] Re: Interesting problem

[Sylvain Gelly]

Hello,

And SlugGo is set not to resign, just
> to pass, which I think is also appropriate in a tournament game,
>
especially a close one. I know that I would never resign a game I
> thought I had lost by less than the komi. I would pass, expect the
> opponent to pass, and then count it openly.

Well your are a human, so you can think that counting quickly can make you
miscount.
However, if a program pass, he knowns the final status of the game if the
other passes,
and knows exactly the dead strings (because if the programs do not agree,
the game will continue anyway). So you have all the information to
count exactly (using the rules) the final score, and a miscount is simply a
bug. The variance is 0, so even if there is only 0.5 difference,
I still don't see the difference between passing and resigning (on a lost
game of course :)).



> very long extended endgames
> that humans 1) would never play, and 2) make derisive comments about,
> leading them to walk away with a very low opinion of the state of
> computer Go.


[...] I just think
> that we will eventually will need to accept that open play in a
> public forum deserves a different set of considerations.


Ok you made your point.
I will set MoGo consider passing at the end of game for next tournaments
against computers, if the opponent passes
and the position is stable.


Sylvain
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