[computer-go] Big board

David Doshay ddoshay at mac.com
Tue Feb 20 16:00:35 PST 2007


On 20, Feb 2007, at 2:27 PM, Chris Fant wrote:

> Actually, I think what I did is equivalent to a torus.  I just never
> thought of it that way.
>

Yes, it is.

Your picture looks very much like the MC simulations of phase  
transitions
in magnetic systems I did while in graduate school. Since that time I  
have
been saying that there is some connection between Go and those systems.
In those MC simulations we always wrapped boundaries this way in order
to minimize edge and finite size effects (in physics we are  
interested in
what happens in very large lattices, so we do a number of sizes and then
extrapolate).

With respect to the question of "fractals" in either the magnetic  
systems
or in Go, in the magnetic system there is a fractal at the phase  
transition
temperature both in computational simulations and according to  
mathematically
rigorous theory. At this temperature the correlation length diverges and
you get structure on all scales. By my eye your system has many  
different
length scales, but not the largest ones, so I would think you are  
simulating
a little below the equivalent of the phase transition temperature.

The thing that has kept me from doing MC Go is trying to figure out what
I can tune so that the MC Go program is operating at or near the  
equivalent
of this temperature. My motivation is that it is clear that the  
strongest
players do know how to make their stones effect as much of the board as
is possible, which is the same as a very long correlation length.


Cheers,
David





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