[computer-go] The dominance of search (Suzie v. GnuGo)

Tom Cooper main at astrolabe.plus.com
Fri Apr 6 05:43:22 PDT 2007


My guess is that the complexity of achieving a fixed standard of play 
(eg 1 dan) using a global alpha-beta or MC search is an exponential 
function of the board size.  For this guess, I exclude algorithms 
that have a tactical or local component.  If this guess is correct 
then, even if Moore's law remains in force, this kind of program 
should not reach dan level on a 19x19 board within 20 years.

To some extent, this is testable today by finding how a global search 
program's strength scales with board size and with thinking 
time.  For example, results in which Suzie had a week to play a 13x13 
game would be interesting.

I don't mean to imply by this message that I think I am particularly 
well qualified to have an opinion on this matter, but when someone 
writes something that surprises me, I'm inclined to argue :)


>
>On 13x13 and especially 19x19 Suzie is still weaker than Gnu-Go. I 
>think the hardware is still too weak to establish the same dominance 
>of search for larger board-sizes. But thats only a matter of time or 
>of a few million $ to build (with Chris Fant) a Go-Chip. Actually 
>about 100.000 Euro for an FPGA based project would be sufficient.
>
>Chrilly Donninger
>



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