[computer-go] MoGo
Don Dailey
drd at mit.edu
Thu Apr 5 12:00:54 PDT 2007
Of course my comment was tongue in cheek, but I agree with you. UCT
programs are not as good at tactics as they are in understanding the
game as a whole.
I'm really not a good player, not qualified to speak about this, but
I have an impression about how they manage to beat program that are
tactically better and I would like to get your impression as well
as others:
Simply put, UCT seeks a pathway that keeps it out of trouble.
They don't have to fully understand all tactics to have enough
sense to simply go a different way. But they are still good
enough that they won't turn down a good fight if the position
calls for it.
They play go the way I used to win in "dodge ball" when I was
a kid. I was not the most athletic, but I just stayed alert
and avoided the battle until almost everyone had knocked
each other out. Usually who was left was a few geeks like
myself and it was easy to take them out (because they were geeks!)
I don't think I was actually smarter than anyone else, I just
though it was more fun to see if I could win. To them,
running TOWARD the ball was the way to go because that's where
all the fun was!
That's how I think UCT program play - the same strategy - avoid
the fights you might not win. Apparently they have added the
strategy to also annoy the opponent by making him think
it's still close! :-)
- Don
On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 11:07 -0700, David Fotland wrote:
> Every go book says that to get better you need to see the big picture :)
> The big difference between low kyu and high dan players is seeing the big
> picture. Low kyu players are already pretty good at local tactics. If you
> read commentaries you will see a lot of waords about "direction of play",
> which is a big picture concept, and not so much about tactics.
>
> I agree with you that a big strength of UCT is its ability to see the big
> picture. Older go programs were stronger at local tactics than sam-strength
> people, and weaker at big picture. UCT seems to be stronger at big picture
> and weaker at tactics.
>
> David
>
> >
> > Wouldn't that be a hoot? To get better at GO you will be taught to
> > see the big picture - think more like a computer! :-)
> >
> > - Don
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