[computer-go] 50, 576 pro/dan games without repetitions nor easily detectable problems

[Richard Brown]

Jacques Basaldúa writes:

> I have finished my "game hunting" for the moment. I feel that 50K is

Jacques, bravo!  Commendations for all your hard work.

However, I have one small quibble with your subject line.  :-)

I think that I have detected one problem with the collection, at
least from my own limited point-of-view, but perhaps I am wrong.

A cursory glance at your data structure and web page indicates that
the identity of the players has been discarded.  Is that so?

Now, I ask you to consider a system which performs automatic
acquisition of data from game records.  Further, consider that
what that system "learns" (in the machine-learning sense) is
_precisely_ the _style_ of play of a particular player.

That is to say, the system hopes to emulate the behavior of
a specific individual, or to put it another way, to predict
where that individual would be likely to play, given a specific
context (arbitrary juncture in a go game).  As opposed to the
behavior of a different individual.

You might believe that such a thing is not possible.  (I assert
that it is, and I'm hopeful that my go program will prove it.)

Without going into the details -- I fear that doing so would be
likely to spark a debate for which I have no time right now, and
even more important, I don't want to give away the farm -- let me
say only that in my own efforts, I have a directory structure like
the one below.  (Astute readers may note especially the directory
entries which begin with the strings "generic" and "winners".)

The data therein, acquired automatically via observation of each
player's behavior, is then used to train certain neural-network
classifiers, the details of which, again, are omitted here, but
I must say -- as I have said before -- that the decision of what
to measure, in the first place, is _extremely_ crucial!

I cannot stress this last point strongly enough.

The training data itself, of course, is finally discarded, in
favor of the networks' weights, which are all that is saved.

[I further assert that the system will not only be able to play
a passable game of go, but that it will also be able, given an
arbitrary game played by two players whose styles it "thinks"
it "knows", to identify the two players!]

However, the point I am trying to make at the moment is that,
depending on what the machine is to learn, the identity of the
players may be a necessary feature of the data.

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-- 
Rich